Leonard Hatred 10:55 Tue Apr 2
Leonard Hatred at Auschwitz
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En route to it now from Krakow.
Always wanted to see it.
Anyone been?
Furnish me with your anecdotes/experiences/thoughts of Auschwitz.
PS Fuck off Golden Oldie.
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Vexed
11:03 Tue Apr 2
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I have never understood why people want to visit such a miserable place.
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ChillTheKeel
11:04 Tue Apr 2
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Auschwitz is a museum. Don't eat a ham sandwich in the gas chamber as I did - it's frowned upon
Birkenau is the real deal. Don't pretend to defecate on a toilet in one of the barracks - that's also frowned upon.
Bar that, it's a fascinating and haunting place. And best of all, Krakow isn't far away if you fancy rounding off the day with a cheap brass.
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pulhampete
11:17 Tue Apr 2
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I've never been but I've always wondered if there's a gift shop and if there is, what do they sell in it?
Maybe you can report back?
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Hammer and Pickle
11:18 Tue Apr 2
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Enjoy Kraków - if architecture floats your boat, you won’t see a better Renaissance town square outside Tuscany. I’ve never been to Auschwitz but I have been to Treblinka and as I said to Piggy back in the day, there’s no point if you don’t consider the political context.
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Northern Sold
11:34 Tue Apr 2
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Pickle... I thought the camp at Treblinka was totally and utterly broken down ... nothing there I thought??
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Hammer and Pickle
11:40 Tue Apr 2
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Sorry - Majdanek was the one I visited. Massive great big pile of human ash makes an impression.
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gph
11:43 Tue Apr 2
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Sachsenhausen was depressing enough for me, and it was only a concentration camp, not an extermination camp.
Although they did kill people there, herding them into a narrow concrete passage and machine gunning them there.
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weststandboy
12:01 Tue Apr 2
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Both camps are quite eerie for differing reasons.
We had a good tip while there at the larger camp which was to start at the very back of the camp (Gas chambers) and work your way to the front avoiding crowds doing it the proper way through the main entrance.
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pulhampete
12:09 Tue Apr 2
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But is there a gift shop?
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Coffee
12:10 Tue Apr 2
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Leonard Hatred 10:55 Tue Apr 2
Not been, but would be interested to read your impressions.
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Far Cough
12:52 Tue Apr 2
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Oswiecim
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1:37 Tue Apr 2
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Len, you use visit the salt mines they’re well worth the time.
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The Human Stain
2:33 Tue Apr 2
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As if these places weren't depressing enough, there's a flourishing movement (backed by law/potential law) that Poland is blameless for the Holocaust and failing that, it didn't really happen or was more like 600,000 than 6,000,000 or was mainly Jews killing Jews. Such sentiment is to lesser or greater degree, beginning to be replicated in neighbouring countries.
The awful reality is that among the incredibly brave people that hid Jews or made other sacrifice at great personal risk, by and large local populations (including liberal countries like Holland and Denmark but especially in the East), readily gave up their Jewish erstwhile neighbours to the Nazis. Indeed the Nazis were often the local populace.
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the last eastender
2:47 Tue Apr 2
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The human stain
It was Nazi Germany not occupied Poland or any occupied nation for that.
Hth
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Chinkey Weasel
2:54 Tue Apr 2
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Leonard - I went in September 2017 when it was really hot.. Definitely worth doing. I assume you're going back to Krakow after? Make sure you go to a place called The Beer House in the old town. It is well worth a visit as I know you like getting wankered. Immensely strong beers!!! You will love it. Enjoy
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simon.s
3:04 Tue Apr 2
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Went late last year. Then read a book called forgotten voices of the Holocaust. The book was fucking harrowing, but after having visited the place, it brings it all home.
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Leonard Hatred
3:06 Tue Apr 2
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pulhampete
There is a shop, but it just sells books and DVDs.
There's no snow globes or "my parents went to Auschwitz and all I got was this lousy t shirt" or owt like that.
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Sven Roeder
3:07 Tue Apr 2
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Has anyone said ‘ my Grandfather died at Auschwitz. He fell out of a gun tower’ yet?
I should hope not
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ChillTheKeel
3:15 Tue Apr 2
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Also, never say 'We get it - it was grim, move on' during a guided tour.
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jooliandix
3:28 Tue Apr 2
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They had 2 football teams there,the first team and the zyklon b team
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